ÇaFleureBon Behind The Bottle with Dawn Spencer Hurwitz: “Going to Extremes” + Bancha Extreme Draw

 

 

One of my favorite  fragrances of 2010 was Dawn Spencer Hurwitz’s Bancha , a botanical fragrance that grabbed me from the moment I first sniffed it. Bancha became one of my regular rotation throughout the spring and summer but I wanted something more for the winter. When I saw Ms. Hurwitz in October at Sniffapalooza Fall Ball I asked her about making an extreme version of Bancha. She told me she was thinking about it and at the recent Sniffapalooza Spring Fling that thought became reality as she premiered Bancha Extreme.

I was curious about the process that a perfumer goes through to make a fragrance extreme. Ms. Hurwitz was kind enough to answer my questions about the path from Bancha to Bancha Extreme.

 

 

Why make an extreme version of Bancha?

DSH: I created Bancha Extreme mainly in response to overwhelming requests from my clients. Bancha was an instant hit when we launched it last year but one comment we heard over and over again was: I LOVE IT…but I would really love a Bancha that was even more intense; a stronger version that even leans a bit more towards a "men's" fragrance.

 

 

When you make an extreme version you just don't add more of everything, do you?

DSH: No, it's a new formulation with the characteristic notes to give the impression of the original Bancha, but with added woody and resinous notes.  Oh yes, and this time there's some actual tea absolute in it. 🙂  Bancha Extreme is a richer, more full bodied version as well as some added concentration (it's almost perfume strength!).  You definitely can't just add more concentration and call something "Extreme" in my way of thinking… there has to be something new introduced or you are just making Parfum out of EdT or something.  There has to be a moving forward, of sorts.

 

 

For Bancha Extreme the same notes are there but I found it to have much more distinctive developmental phases on my skin. How did you do that?

DSH: Oh, that's great!  It pleases me to hear that.  My intention was to re-imagine Bancha in an expanded way.  I wanted something that builds on the original formula but does have a distinctive way of unfolding that ultimately takes you to a new destination, albeit not too far afield from the original.  I also felt that the original note structure was (purposefully) relatively sparse.  With Bancha Extreme, I wanted to create something richer and perhaps more night time / dark in feel whereas Bancha feels really 'daytime' to me.  So there is expanded layering throughout the design with the frankincense co2 addition as well as the gunpowder green tea note which imparts a textural tannin note.

 

 

You mentioned that in Bancha there was no tea note and in Bancha Extreme there is. What does the tea note add to the extreme version that you didn't need in the original?

DSH: When I was creating Bancha, I didn't have a name in mind, just a feeling.  And it is this feeling that Bancha (tea) refers to, not a tea fragrance, so I didn't think it needed an actual tea note. But when considering Bancha Extreme, it seemed like an essential element to add, not just for the gift it brings to the design (that tannin & subtle smoke feel) but that this time I had better use some tea, since the name without tea seems to 'bend' some people's minds a bit.  So the tea note became part of the overall solution to how to begin expanding the Bancha idea and settle the “tea question". (Editor's Note: DSH used black tea absolue)

 

 

Is there any other DSH Fragrance you'd like to do an extreme version of?

DSH: This is the question that I had to think about for quite a while.  You know, Bancha Extreme is the second extreme version of a scent (DSH special formula X-treme was my first) that I have done.  It really comes down to understanding the design elements behind any given perfume.  Some scents just don't lend themselves to extreme versions or even perfume / extrait concentrations but most scent designs work well in multiple formats from EdT to oil essence concentrates, so they don't require a new design, to expand them.  I really couldn't think of any other DSH perfumes that I would want to do an extreme version of specifically, but I really enjoyed the thought provoking question!  I will now have this question in the back of my mind as I am designing, I suspect.

 

 

Thanks Dawn! For those wondering how different Bancha Extreme is from Bancha on my skin here is my capsule review:

Bancha Extreme is different from Bancha most strikingly in the more delineated development of the extreme version. Bancha pretty much lays all of its cards on the table right from the beginning. Bancha Extreme likes showing you its hand one card at a time. Bancha Extreme begins with the same tart citrus accord that Bancha did. Unlike Bancha, Bancha Extreme lingers there a moment longer giving you a heartbeat, or two, more to enjoy it. The heart of Bancha Extreme is where the most marked difference occurs as the citrus recedes a bit and the lavender, jasmine, and rose come forward but now there is a resinous underpinning of frankincense; very dry and shimmering which changes the character from Bancha dramatically. It is here where Ms. Hurwitz chooses to actually include the tea accord and it adds a smokiness along with the frankincense that adds to a Japanese Tea House aesthetic. The woody base remains but in Bancha Extreme is allowed to stand more alone in the development. Balsam, sandalwood, and cedar are joined by vetiver and patchouli. These latter two notes add a starker contrast and depth to the woods making Bancha Extreme more of a good thing.

Bancha Extreme has above average longevity and average sillage. It is 100% natural and botanical.

Sometime too much of a good thing makes you realize the original was truly good enough. Every once in a while more is better, especially when a talented artist is the one serving it up. Bancha Extreme is a worthy companion to Bancha and allows both to shine equally as the beautiful creations that they are. Ms. Hurwitz once again proves there is a fierce intelligence at work which is present  in equal amounts to her talent.

Disclosure: The review was based on a sample of Bancha Extreme provided by Dawn Spencer Hurwitz.

Dawn has been extremely generous in offering a 10mL sample of Bancha Extreme to one CaFleureBon reader. To be eligible for the draw let Dawn know if you have a DSH fragrance you would like to  buy an Extreme version  (maybe you  can be a muse)  and/ or leave a comment on your favorite tea.

The draw will close May 25, 2011 at 6pm est.  WANT A BETTER CHANCE TO WIN? YOUR VOTE COUNTS TWICE BY LIKING ON FACEBOOK http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/Behind-the-Bottle-CaFleureBon-Q-and-A/217732034906329

Mark Behnke, Managing Editor

Art Direction: Michelyn Camen, Editor in Chief

Editor's Note: Before we started CaFleureBon, I asked why so many perfumers loved tea (on Facebook).They included Neil Morris, Mandy Aftel, DSH Sarah Barton King and Maria McElroy and  art of tea was very much part of the experience of the gone but not forgotten Takashimaya.

I had lunch with Maurice Roucel at a Japanese midtown restaurant, he drank green tea (and sake)!

Interjecting also known as butting in. I would like to see  candles, room sprays and new packaging using DSH's art and jewels.

"Find yourself a cup of tea; the teapot is behind you. Now tell me about hundreds of things". ~Saki

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33 comments

  • Dawn you little vixen, always tempting me. Dawns fragrances are so beautiful and everytime i try another its even more beautiful then the one before.  Bancha Extreme sounds like something i would love…….a bit more intense, sandalwood and patchouli in the base i do not need to hear more……gosh and yes i do love tea, one of my personal favorites is Kusmi Anastasia Tea and i also love the organic Intaba Honeybush Tea. Dawn your fragrances are lovely and every perfumista should at least own 1 or 2 of your creations.

  • don’t forget to like ca fleure bon behind the bottle!!!! i would like for Dawn to create gift cards scented with her chroma series and muguet fragrances based on her paintings. please create candles studded with jewel like reusuable holders in extreme made with bees wax and natural jojoba. pamplemousse, tuberouse and bancha extreme, mata hari, to begin with and botanical linen sprays

  • Usually I prefer white tea for its delicate flavor.  But my favorite green tea for summer is made by Teavana:  Fruta bomba.  It is a mixture of green and rooibos teas with peach and I think papaya…very refreshing and healthy too.
    I had my first introduction to DHS just recently and now I want to sniff more!   Bancha Extreme sounds like an incredibly lovely prize.  Thank you for the generous draw!

  • I can't believe I haven't even tried the original Bancha yet!!! And now I'm chomping at the bit to try them both!!! 
    I have no idea what I would like to see in extreme form….Normally if I just want to increase the intensity of the scent –then I pick up a 10ml oil pulse roller to go with the Edp ….btw way; my hubby adores the Purple Lilac. It never ceases to get "mmmmm" and a neck snuffle.  🙂 

  • Taffynfontana says:

    I would love to try american beauty extreme I love its clean flowery notes 

  • I would like to be entered in the drawing, thanks! My favorite tea – sharp spicy ginger lemon !

  • Thank you Michelyn and Mark for this lovely Behind the Bottle and the great review of Bancha Extreme!  The questions really were thought provoking and I know they will stay with me when designing in the future. 🙂
    Thank you as well for the opportunity to share Bancha Extreme with a lucky winner: good luck everyone!

  • Carlos Powell says:

    This sounds wonderful. I haven't tried as many DSH fragrances as I would have liked to. All of my perfumista friends rave about her work! The latest I tried was Cimabue…lovely!

  • I haven't had a chance to try any of DSH's perfumes yet but I plan to do it soon.
    I think that my favorite type of teas is the one I cannot drink any more because of a strange allergic (?) reaction – jasmine tea. Now I have to enjoy that scent from perfumes – which isn't the worst way, right?

  • Z. Boudreaux says:

    My favorite tea to drink vacillates between lapsang souchong (traditionally smoke-dried over pinewood fires, taking on a distinctive smoky flavour.) and matcha (a finely milled green tea). This sounds like a lovely perfume to wear while sipping a cup and I would love to try it. I don't think I fully understand the concept of extreme in perfumes. More strength? More sillage? Is this possible with an all natural perfume?

  • As I haven't tried any DSH perfume I don't know which one I would want in an extreme version. I would love to try any of them, and Bancha extreme sounds delicious.
    I like almost all kind of teas, but black tea with cinnamon is one of my favourites. And red tea with osmanthus!
    Thank you for this chance to try a DSH perfume. I already like Behind the bottle on Facebook 🙂

  • I think Bancha Extreme sounds like a worthy extension of Bancha, the addition of frankincense and black tea absolute I am excited to try. I like Bancha but did not fall in love with it and would love to experience a version that has more development stages on the skin.
    There actually isn't another DSH fragrance that I've been wanting to see an extreme version for, so I'll tell you that my favorite tea is a combination Jasmine dragon pearls brewed with a fruity rooibos. I first tasted it being sampled at Teavana, and then I went out and bought the tea elsewhere to blend myself. It's like a treat, not a tea I drink daily.

  • stellaglo says:

    bancha is in my list of top five perfumes i must always have. i would love to try bancha extreme. i would also love to see lavande amped up a bit, with maybe some hay absolute for extra emphasis. just a thought. i'm a lavenderaholic. 

  • Anna in Edinburgh says:

    A limited edition Twinings tea that I hope is widely available: Rose Garden. It's a light black tea with rose petals (10%) and rose flavouring (3%), and the scent is simply delightful. One to inhale over and over. Blissful.
    I have no connection to the company, I promise, but if I did I would make this available for all time.

  • I'm not usually a tea drinker – coffee is my preference – but when I have a cuppa, I love Earl Grey.  It's the bergamot!

  • I was just drinking Bancha yesterday! 🙂 I put a bit too much so it smelled a bit like sea grass 🙂 I don't have fav tea, but I started to like Black tea (with milk) more and more. I like green tea (especially Kukicha), yellow is also good, but I think I find myself the most in White Tea.
    Bancha is my hubby's favorite green tea. It would be awesome to try perfume with a similar scent hahaha

  • I really like Wasabi Shiso, but not sure if it needs to be 'extremed'…my all time fav. tea is Oolong Ginseng which I first tasted in Chongqing, China…it leaves a tingly note in your mouth after each sip!

  • I love all teas, but have never tried a tea fragrance.  I have never tried any of DSH fragrances, as am new to perfumes, and never tried an independent perfumer before…usually wore Chanel because my hubby bought it for me (I do really like Coco).  I do like bergamot , lemon, jasmine and chamomile teas. Please enter me in the drawing…I would love to try this!

  • Vishishta says:

    I love Bancha tea.  But I also love the beautiful smell of Jasmine or Black scented with Rose.

  • I love the smell of tea, and I always start the day with a cup of Yunnan tea, a clean, pure tasting Chinese black tea. I also love Keemum tea, another Chinese black tea, that has a natural apricot scent (not flavoring). 

  • I have never tried any DSH perfume, but would love to. I have a pretty large collection of different teas at every time (as you need to drink them to make sure you get fresh ones) and there isnt a single tea shop i can walk by without sticking my nose into. Four cups of tea is my daily regimen, two black ones in the morning and two depending on my mood at night or throughout the day.. sometimes more. I mostly drink black teas, often with spices/flowers/fruits. My current favorites are mixed black with dried strawberries, which has an incredible aroma, and assam peach nectar, which tastes of peaches. Both very beautiful teas.

  • Woods, resin, tea, smoke, jasmine, rose…this sounds so delicious.  I've yet to try DSH's perfumes, unfortunately, so I can't comment on which I'd to smell in an extremed.  But my favorite tea is organic Tulsi Tea Sweet Rose.  Any time I eat or drink anything flavored with real rose, I have happy mouth.

  • Valentine says:

    I've loved black tea from childhood, and now my favorite is probably vanilla chai spice. My mother's loose leaf Chinese black tea is also quite tasty.

  • The best tea that I ever had was iced peach at the Crooked House of Tea in London! I would do anything to find it here in the states but I have enjoyed many teas in my quest soem have at least come close. I am a daily black tea drinker. Loose leaf that is fresh is wonderful. makes me salivate.The smell of Rooibus makes me salivate.
    I have not yet experienced a DSH fragrence but I would love to try one. The most intriguing aspect of this draw is that Bancha is 100% natural

  • Paul Kiler says:

    Tea  Tea  Tea  Tea  Tea…    this has been one of the things that brought me into perfumemaking too.
    I've been making my own tea for perfumes, it makes the house smell so lovely…
    The Bancha Extreme sounds like I need to try it out…  I have an entire kitchen cabinet filled with all kinds of teas…  I like almost all teas of the known universe except for that dirty earthy Pu'er tea
    I was so looking forward to buying another tea Frag, but it was discontinued apparently…

  • I have been following these posts but do not own any natural perfume.  I am a little shy and apprehensive about them but would like to try.  My favorite tea is Stash / Double Bergamot.  The smell is divine! After opening the packet I rub the foil inside on my wrists.

  • Here in Texas my favorite tea is a tall glass of black iced tea, unsweetened, and stuffed with fresh mint leaves from my garden.  I love so many DSH perfumes.  Celedon is a beautiful, fragile green on me. I would love to have it be a little stronger, if this could be done without taking away the fragility. A tall order!

  • angiefunk says:

    I have not had the pleasure of smelling any of Dawns perfumes but I will have to give them a try soon.  This Bancha sounds like a beautiful perfume.  That should be my next perfume adventure, love that she created 100% natural perfumes too.  I personally love loose leaf teas. Some of absolute favorites are Siberian rose bud with osmanthus- great for before bed, very calming and soothing; lycee black tea iced- cool and refreshing in the summer; Pu-erh tea with baby chrysanthemum and stevia leaves-  earthy yet floral with a touch of sweetness, very good for digestion after meals and lastly Jasmine King tea- beautiful white tea leaves that are scent with jasmine flowers, absolutly stunning light tea with a foral aroma to rivail any perfume.   

  • I love the smell of tea! My favorite? Green tea, black tea, white tea… I really enjoy them all. Nothing is more effective at clearing my head, calming me down, and making me feel centered. I look forward to the chance to try Bancha, as perhaps it will have the same effect on me.

  • Nothing beats the perfume of a dark brewed Persian tea or that tannic pucker of the mouth.  I've been able to kick my coffee habit through 2 pregnancies, but have never been able to relinquish my afternoon tea (and why should I?).  I do branch out into other tea cultures, but always return to what I love best.  DSH's Bancha sounds wonderful, though.  Leave it to the Japanese to create a tea out of branches.  Leave it to DSH to create beautiful fragrance out of that concept. 

  • I've loved tea scents since Bvlgari's The Verte, and ever since as well! I've only had the opportunity to sample one DSH creation (Vert Pour Madame, an instant love!), so Bancha Extreme sounds like something I could very much love, worship and adore!