ÇaFleureBon Notes From the Lab: A DEEP Dive into Vanilla + Not A Plain Old Giveaway

 

Vanilla in perfumes

Hot Chocolate via Magda Fou-Unsplash for DEEP Dive into Vanilla

Vanilla. The word itself can plunge our memory into the sweet abyss. Memories of cold nights with a cup of hot cocoa, perhaps. The vanilla ice cream cone that melted in your hot, summer hands. The vanilla extract that added that perfect touch to your grandmother’s holiday cookies. Maybe it’s not a food memory at all.

It could very well be a special memory of a certain perfume that sweetened your past.

Jicky vintage bottle from a former team member’s collection

Vanilla in perfumery seems standard fare nowadays, but it wasn’t always that way. Without going too deep into the history of vanilla, Vanillin and Ethyl Vanillin were first synthesized in the mid-late 19th century. Guerlain was the first to introduce the fragrance world to these two molecules in their modern classics, Jicky (1889) and Shalimar (1921). In both fragrances, the (ethyl) vanillin added a sweet warmth and created an addicting sillage like never before. The perfume world was hooked.

Angel Bottle via Mugler (composed in 1992 by Olivier Cresp)

Fast forward to the modern era, and we find vanilla becoming the cornerstone of many fragrance pyramids. One vanilla perfume that still fills the “90’s aisle” of my memory warehouse is Angel by Thierry Mugler. I didn’t know it was Angel at the time. It wasn’t until my early 20’s when I smelled the classic at a fragrance counter and was catapulted back in time. My older cousin wore this fragrance in the late 90’s, and I never knew why she smelled like some chocolate concoction.

Michael Schrammel of For the Scent of It

Michael Schrammel perfumer, For The Scent of It 

One thing I was surprised to discover as I began studying perfumery, is that what we think smells like vanilla doesn’t usually come from the actual vanilla pod. Vanillin and Ethyl Vanillin are the culprits in most cases. Smell a vanilla pod once and you may be surprised at the lack of what we think of as “vanilla”. As a perfumer, there are many ways to create a vanilla note. These are some of the materials I use to do so. Let’s begin our descent.

Vanilla Absolue Vanilla SFE (CO2), Isobutavan®, Ultravanil®Benzoin, Ethyl Vanillin,

 Mouillettes alongside Vanilla Pods and Benzoin Tears-For the Scent of It©

Vanilla Absolute is created through a solvent extraction of fermented and sun-aged vanilla pods. The green pods have little odor when first harvested, but then go through a treatment process that draws the natural vanillin out and turns the pods brownish black. Only after this “curing” can the absolute be produced. The final product smells like a dense balsamic vanilla, quite sweet with a lot of vanillin and a soft spice.

Vanilla SFE (CO2) is created in a similar fashion to the absolute except this is extracted using supercritical carbon dioxide, capturing more of the pods’ natural aroma. This IS vanilla. It smells exactly as if you were to take a dark vanilla bean, slice it open, and smell it. Notes of spiced clove, a creamy nectar, a dash of burnt marshmallow over a campfire, slightly animalic which lends itself to leathers and tobacco accords. I like to use this to add a rustic vanilla note without all the sweetness.

Vanillin is the molecule that gives vanilla it’s sweet aroma. Powdery, sweet, and smells like, well, “vanilla”. I prefer to use natural vanillin extracted from clove. It just has a touch more depth to it due to trace impurities from its source. In a perfume, vanillin has many uses. Aside from sweet and gourmand, it softens citruses, creates amber notes, and can help round off most compositions. It can enhance the petal character in florals as well.

Ethyl Vanillin is a similar aroma to vanillin, but roughly 2x-3x stronger. To me, it recalls the smell of a freshly opened bag of hot chocolate with marshmallows. Very sweet, powdery, slightly dusty phenolic. It can add a lot of body to a fragrance, but care must be taken since over time it can conquer what seemed like a well-balanced perfume.

Isobutavan® (Givaudan) is a favorite of mine. It smells like cream soda, white chocolate, creamy apricot-esque lactone and orange. Nostalgically reminds me of a creamsicle. In the deep drydown, it becomes mostly a sweet take on the ingredient.

Ultravanil® (Givaudan) is a newer material for me. Without dilution, it is quite potent and smells like a vanilla sweetened, smoother creosol (think spicy clove smoked over a campfire). I have found in small amounts it can transform vanillin and ethyl vanillin into a more realistic vanilla. It also pushes spice notes giving them more volume and tenacity.

Benzoin has a cinnamic vanillic aroma. It can be used to create a long lasting, balsamic vanilla and blends wonderfully with white florals, helping them last longer. Too much, though, and other materials will drown. Different sources/extractions/varieties of benzoin offer different scent profiles and levels of sweetness. Benzoin Oliffac® (IFF) is used as a replacement for benzoin that’s much easier to work with. Keep pliers around if you are working with natural benzoin. That cap will get stuck, and it will annoy you.

So, as you can see, vanilla isn’t just vanilla. There are a variety of ways to create this delectable delight in a fragrance. Without this delicious aroma, there would be no Nearly Nu or Tobacco Pod from For the Scent of It. In Nearly Nu, it lends its silkier side to helping create a delicate cloud of sweet luxury. While in Tobacco Pod, vanilla strengthens the entire fragrance, adding body and a sweet harmony to the other notes.

Nearly Nu: Top: Musk Mallow Heart: Iris Base: Vanilla and Tobacco Pod: Top: Spices Heart: Bulgarian Tobacco Absolute Base: Vanilla, Cedarwood

And  remember, with vanilla in perfumery, you can have your cake and smell it too.

Contributor, Michael Schrammel of For the Scent of It

For the Scent of It Nearly Nu and Tobacco Pod

For The Scent of It Nearly Nu and Tobacco Pod

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36 comments

  • Thank you for this article! It was great to finally understand the differences in vanilla and vanilla fragrance compounds. I have discovered over the years how much I love vanilla in some blends, but not in others. This goes a long way in explaining some of those variations. I live in the continental US.

  • Ally Johnson says:

    I LOVE how vanilla brings out so many different fragrances depending on what it is combined with – also I am in the Continental US 🙂

  • wanderlost8 says:

    Wow, I wasn’t aware that there were this many vanilla type compounds involved in making perfumes. The nuances of each one was described really well! I wonder what other ‘typical’ ingredients also have a vast range of compounds in the perfume world. Thanks for sharing!
    Based in continental USA

  • I was so excited to see this article, after following Michael’s stories and posts about the different materials he uses for vanilla notes. It is so interesting to see all the different ways that “natural” scents are replicated, and may actually end up smelling more like what we associate with that scent than with the actual raw material itself. I recently bought a sample of Nearly Nu and it has quickly become one of my favorites, so I would love a bottle of it so much. I am in the ConUS, in Illinois. Thank you!

  • Regis Monkton says:

    Certainly, I can enjoy vanilla in perfumery. I found this article to be a very valuable source of information concerning vanilla in perfumery and perfumery history. I appreciate discovering Ultravanil because it just sounds like the vanilla note I’d like the most out of the ones mentioned because of its sweet clove-spicy nature. I live in MD., U.S.A. I’d like to win a bottle of “Tobacco Pod”. I appreciate Michael’s insight and generosity.

  • I’m intrigued by the Isobutavan® which is said to smell like a creamsicle. I’d like to win Nearly Nu. US

  • Brad Woolslayer says:

    It was interesting to read the different ways that vanilla can be made and the way the smell can differ as well. I’d love to win a bottle of Tobacco Pod. Tobacco and vanilla make a wonderful combination, especially when you blend in the perfect balance of woods and spices. I live in Maryand USA.

  • I love the richness and warmth of vanilla, but also the ability to easily layer and that its a very easy to get along with scent. Most people outside of the fragrance world like vanilla perfume. Its easy to understand and rarely offensive. Im working my way through samples still, but have your (michael!) forbidden fig on my full bottle list. Since you offers two free samples with fb purchase, i was thinking about what i might ask for and nearly nu is my #1. Im waffling on the second between molten ambra and blackwood sun. Thanks again to cafleurebon for introducing me to michaels work, its impressive to say the least and i cant wait to see how your art develops! Id love to try tobacco pod as well, but its less of an interest for me because i have a tobacco frag i really love, the now discontinued elizabeth and james nirvana amethyst, it is so nostalgic for me. smells exactly like my grandpa in the 80s-90s, he smoked a pipe and its just got this wonderful sweet pipe tobacco. Very comforting, i miss him. Anyway, looking forward to hearing more from michael in future articles. Id love to see even more vanilla based frags in your collection! Im in Bellingham, WA.

  • Dproductive1 says:

    Ethyl vanillin and the imagery of freshly opened bag of hot chocolate with marshmallows did it for me. 2 to 3 times stronger than vanillin is nothing to sneeze at either. I’d like Tobacco Pod. I live in the northeastern United States.

  • Johnmichael02302 says:

    I would love to win tobacco pod. What I love about vanilla is it seems to get better with age. Live in Boston.

  • I absolutely adore vanilla in fragrances, which may be unexpected since I am not a fan of overtly gourmand scents. As Michael mentioned, vanilla has so many uses in perfumery and I appreciate the more unconventional ones. I like it when its used in dark fragrances with booming musks that give a sexy air of intrigue (e.g., Vanhera by Laboratorio Olfattivo), or when it’s combined with potent animalics and medicinal tones to round out the edges (e.g., Lune Feline by Atelier des Ors). Benzoin is one of my favorite vanillic compounds. It’s subtle spiciness and resinous tones give such interest and strength to a fragrance.

    I am a big fan of Michael’s work already and know that he uses his ingredients in very interesting ways. His Wasteland Warrior and Blackwood Sun fragrances are amazing. I only recently sampled Tobacco Pod and it instantly made it onto my ever-growing “short list” of fragrances I need in my collection. That said, Tobacco Pod is the one I would choose if I won. I live in NC, USA.

  • What intrigues me the most about vanilla is that it rounds out and compliments other notes so well. It acts as a good underlying base when other brighter and smokier notes come first. It’s always a beautiful and pleasant surprise that lingers. I am interested in Tobacco Pod, located in NY. Cheers!

  • I really enjoy how varied vanilla can be in the different forms used in fragrances, like between vanillin and vanilla CO2. It’s ability to be combined with multiple different notes to make amazingly warm or sweet fragrances is something I really enjoy around the winter time. I’ve heard a lot about For The Scent Of It from prior blogs and top 10 lists on this website, and if I were to win I would love to try a bottle of Tobacco Pod. Based from TX, USA.

  • Danu Seith-Fyr says:

    Fascinating and very approachable read, thank you. Not eligible for the draw unfortunately but welcome to the team and will certainly check your website.
    Bravo

  • I was fascinated by how different an actual vanilla pod smelled vs. a lot of vanilla dominant perfumes. It smelled strange and woody versus edible. I am curious about Tobacco Pod since the notes seem more along those lines than a “gourmand” perfume.

  • I’m new to fragrence and so never knew vanilla came in so many ways, and could be used in so many ways. I’ve always just thought of vanilla as just that – vanilla. It’s a scent I’ve always loved, in whatever form I’ve smelled it in. To know more about vanilla, and the various forms it comes in, is a bit eye opening for me. It certainly makes me appreciate it more and those who use it in oh so many ways, to make it work with so many fragrence composistions. If I were to win I think I would like Nearly Nu and I live in New York.

  • bigscoundrel says:

    I love how vanilla can be used in so many ways. Sometimes it’s sticky and sweet. Other times it’s dry and almost spicy. I’d love to win Tobacco Pod. New Jersey, USA

  • Vanilla fragrances are gorgeous. I was amazed at how many different types of Vanilla notes there are in perfumery. I do enjoy spices with my Vanilla, so Tobacco Pod would be my choice, if lucky. Thanks for a very informative article. Mich USA

  • I’m not a fan of bakery sweet vanilla but I do like a smoky vanilla which features in some of my favorite fragrances. It’s really amazing how different vanilla notes can be and how much nuance it can add to a composition. I would love to win Nearly Nu. The iris/vanilla combo is irresistible to me. MD,USA.

  • There is no fragrance note more cozy, rich and enveloping to my nose than vanilla. It exudes warmth and nostalgia, especially for those of us who have grown up with vanilla extract as the default flavor of choice for sweets and baked goods. Should I win, it would delight me to try Tobacco Pod. I live in Indiana, USA. Thanks for the giveaway!

  • CinnamonGirl43 says:

    Amazing article! Thank you. I never knew so many different types of vanilla existed or shall I say, so many different methods of creating the note I know as vanilla. And vanilla is my absolute favorite note in perfumery. It always has been and always will be. I think it’s very interesting that vanilla can be extracted from a clove. In my opinion, a fragrance can never have too much vanilla. I’d love to receive a bottle of Tobacco Pod. It sounds amazing. I’m in the Philadelphia, PA USA area. Thank you!!

  • This was so informative. Learning about the types of vanilla aroma chemicals will really make it fun to try and pick out just which one it could be in different fragrances. I haven’t smelled any fragrances from For The Scent of yet but I have looked at getting a sample set. I would be thrilled to win a bottle of Nearly Nu.

    Thanks for the giveaway. I’m in the ConUS. Virginia to be exact. 🙂

  • Excellent breakdown of the different components that can be formed into to what we think of as just ‘Vanilla’! I’m now suspicious of some fragrances in my collection that have grown overly sweet to my nose – perhaps Ethyl Vanillin is the cause! I would love to be entered to win ‘Tobacco Paid’ by For The Scent of It – sounds right up my alley in terms of the style of Tobacco fragrances I enjoy. Shipping to Pennsylvania, USA if I win!

  • I love this tutorial on vanilla by Michael. Now I have to smell vanilla pod and try to distinguish it from other “vanilla” smells. There is so much I learned from this article. Please have more of these!!! I am intrigued by benzoin used for vanilla notes. Also learned about Jicky and Shalimar being the first with chemical vanilla notes. Curious also to find more about the Givaudan chemicals mentioned. And thanks Michael for the generous draw. If I am lucky enough to win this draw, I would choose Tobacco Pod. Please have more such articles !!! I am from continental United States.

  • Great article about vanilla in its many facets.I didnt know that it was Guerlain who introduced the vanilla molecules to the fragrance world.
    It was vearay useful and know I understand the vanilla compoundas in the fragrance world. I love that there are many ways of creating the vanilla scent, just mind blowing.
    I would love to win Tobbaco Pod.
    I live in the Continental USA.

  • Fascinating breakdown of the different “vanillas” out there, and how some can smell like cloves, or amber, etc. I always think I don’t like sickly sweet perfumes, but there are plenty with vanilla I do enjoy, like Angel and Shalimar – soft but definitely not too sweet to my nose. I would love to try Tobacco Pod. I think the vanilla would soften the tobacco and make it very approachable, and cedar always reminds me of the scented moth repellent cedar blocks we put in our dressers growing up. Very nostalgic. Hello from Colorado, and thank you for the lovely article and giveaway! I love finding other people so enthusiastic about fragrance, since I am, too!

  • Bryant Worley says:

    This article was quite enlightening, as I was blown away by the many guises of vanilla, as I like vanilla in fragrances. Now, I am a more informed consumer.

    I wat to win Tobacco Pod, as it seems like just what the doctor ordered, especially with them thar spices.

    I live in Waldorf, Maryland, USA.

  • Oh I’m so excited to hear that Michael Schrammel will be taking over the Notes From the Lab!! This article here was just incredible!! I was just smelling a fragrance today (home made by a friend) picking apart its notes, my little hobby lol … and a touch of cinnamon was noted but somehow not – Benzoin!! Of course!
    I’m looking forward to more of these writings!
    I really appreciate his fragrances too. From Stone Roses, Forbidden Fig to Folk Tales.. big fan. I’ve been wanting Nearly Nu for ages so that’s my pick if I am so lucky
    In USA fingers crossed!

  • Thank you for this super interesting article!
    It was great to finally understand the differences in vanilla and vanilla fragrance compounds.
    Love vanilla very much- my today vanilla favourite is Vanilla² Maison Tahite.
    Would like to win Nearly Nu.
    from US, DE

  • This was a terrific look into vanilla in perfumery. I didn’t realize the smell we associate with vanilla doesn’t actually come from the pod and can usually be narrowed down to Vanillin and Ethyl Vanillin. I also enjoyed reading about all the different materials and their extraction methods, along with the way Michael likes to use them in his perfumes. The two trademarked Givaudans are particularly interesting. I hope Michael keeps penning From the Lab articles for ÇaFleureBon; I’d love to hear his thoughts on other notes, accords, and blending.

    I’m in the Continental United States. I’d love to win the bottle of Tobacco Pod. Thanks for the giveaway!

    I liked this series on Facebook.

  • Vanilla was the note that I first sought out when I got into niche perfumes. I had no idea that I knew so little about this note until now. From the descriptions I would think that my favorite would be the Isobutavan. Look forward to more Notes from the Lab from Michael. Thanks for the chance. I’d love to win Nearly Nu. Washington State.

  • Michael Prince says:

    What intrigues me about vanilla in its many guises is learning about the history of Vanilla of perfumery which all started with their modern classics, Jicky (1889) and Shalimar (1921). I loved learning about all the different types of Vanilla Molecules used in modern perfumery to include Vanilla Absolute, Vanilla SFE (Co2), Vanillin, Ethyl Vanillin, Isobutavan® (Givaudan), Ultravanil, and Benzoin. I loved learning all their characteristics from how they are extracted to what they smell like. If I win I would choose Tobacco Pod. I am from Ohio, USA.

  • sephrenia300 says:

    Very interesting article! What intrigues me about vanilla in its many guises is how the different synthetic aroma materials can smell more like what we associate with vanilla than the pure vanilla “pod” in unadulterated form. I particularly enjoyed learning about Isobutavan and how it smells like cream soda or even an orange creamsicle, blending vanilla’s signature creaminess with an effervescent and modern twist.

    Of the two perfumes offered, I would like to win Nearly Nu. I live in the Continental United States

  • wallygator88 says:

    Thanks for the fantastic writeup Michael. I really enjoyed reading about the different vanilla materials and your take on how the are different from each other. I’ve made a note of them so that I can pick them up.

    I would love to win a bottle of Nearly Nu. The notes sound so nice for our WI weather.

    Cheers from WI, USA

  • Thank you to everyone who read, enjoyed and left some great comments on my first contribution to “Notes From the Lab”! I am thrilled to see that so many of you loved learning more about vanilla in perfumery. I look forward to sharing many more notes from the lab in the future

    Michael – For the Scent of It